A good starting point for compliance tests:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/01/07.html#safari_review

.:Posted by Dancelf ( total) on January 8, 2003 3:03 PM:.

This is the place to discuss the new Safari Browser and maybe compare it to Netscape and IE. We have only the highest hopes for this piece of software.

.:Posted by Real Estate Designer ( total) on January 10, 2003 2:10 PM:.

How can YOu set the sizing(zoom) option in a safari window? current window reduces instead of expanding, and the reverse happens with the next click. manual sizing increases the window but the page content remains the same .
Any help with the sizing issue would be greatly appreciated

.:Posted by salman ( total) on January 10, 2003 3:40 PM:.

I find it difficult to transfer bookmarks from may iMac to ma laptop-

.:Posted by Jakob Maurer ( total) on January 17, 2003 2:23 AM:.

Jakob: I have seen a number of tools on versiontracker.com for transferring bookmarks and I've seen an article on MacOSXhints.com on how to use backup to transfer them via .Mac I'd start with the article and also search versiontracker for 'safari' to see what you can do.

Salman: I'm not an expert and that's not the behavior I'm seeing. Can you send me a link? I can tell you what I see. I am currently using version 51 of Safari.

.:Posted by Michael Croft ( total) on January 17, 2003 9:50 AM:.

i loved safari right up until the time it refused to startup. soon after the icon starts bouncing and before anything shows up on the screen i get the "application has unexpectedly quit" message. i've re -started and redownloaded/installed safari...still no good ..any ideas?? i'm running 10.2.3 on an 800 mhz i mac with 768 meg ram...and no aftermarket software to speak of.

.:Posted by carl pascarell ( total) on January 20, 2003 9:58 PM:.

First thing: if you haver version 48 (the first release), get version 51 (1/10/03) from the Safari page.

Second: start the Terminal Utility and type ls -la /tmp. It should say something like:

lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 11 Jan 20 20:02 /tmp -> private/tmp

in response. If it doesn't it's a bug in Safari (48) that can cause a problem.

Third:in the finder go to Home/Library/Preferences and delete (or move) com.apple.Safari.plist

Fourth: Go to the apple menu and select "About the Mac" Click the "More Info..." button. Select the "Logs" Tab and open the Safari.crash.log (if it's visible). If it's crashed a lot, there are could be a lot of logs, maybe mostly identical. The interesting one will be the one that is just before it started crashing on startup. If you can tell what it was doing, you may be able to figure out what's wrong. If not, you can send it to Apple.

.:Posted by Michael Croft ( total) on January 20, 2003 10:26 PM:.

Thanks Michael!
I was having the same problem starting Safari and removing the plist solved it right away.

.:Posted by brian glodde ( total) on January 28, 2003 2:29 AM:.

Salman

Resizing is simple...

Command + larger
Command - smaller

Santa

.:Posted by Brian Christmas ( total) on February 9, 2003 7:37 PM:.

Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem with Safari - it crashes now every time I try to start up.

I have clean installed, I have reset my PRAM, I have tried everything listed above.

I believe I have Safari build 60, but when i tried typing "ls -la /temp" in the terminal, I didnt get the expected return:
"ls: /temp: No such file or directory"

unfortunately I have deleted my plist before seeing your post, so every listing in my crash log was a filed attempt - I dont have a record of the last time I was successful.

please help! I think safari is nice and would much prefer it to IE.

thanks

.:Posted by slushy ( total) on March 20, 2003 8:40 PM:.

Actually, it's /tmp.

If you type ls -la /tmp and get no such file or directory, you should type
cd /
ln -s /private/tmp tmp

This will
1: change your current directory to the root directory
2: make a symbolic link (-s means symbolic (links are like mac aliases for Unix)) that redirects requests for /tmp to /private/tmp

Another thing to try is running the apple disk utility from the applications/utilities folder, select your hard drive, and the First Aid Tab. You want to Verify Disk Permission and then repair them. That's just general good maintenance, but it may help here.

Hope one of these suggestions helps.

.:Posted by Michael Croft ( total) on March 20, 2003 8:52 PM:.

thanks, i was spelling the unix command incorrectly. i was able to get the proper file returned.

i tried the disk utility, but have also used norton disk doctor just to check everything out - all seems fine but still safari wont run anymore. :(

thanks for your help - if you think of anything else, let me know!!

.:Posted by slushy ( total) on March 21, 2003 1:00 AM:.

I have the same problem with Safari. Crash on start-up. Tried everything listed and more. Nothing works. The strange thing is that it worked fine at first...

.:Posted by Arthur ( total) on April 26, 2003 12:14 PM:.

Slushy and Arthur:

The only thing I can think of is to try to log in as a different user and see if it's still broken. Create another user if you have to. If it works, then you want to look at things like permissions or startup items, or preferences. If it doesn't, you want to look at things like the cache or installed haxies or other system-wide issues. We run it on 3 machines and have no troubles.

If you can try Omni-web 4.5SP, you can see if it's a Webcore rendering problem or a Safari problem.

And if there is an apple store near you, you might want to ask them if you can bring it in and have them look at it.

Good luck guys!

.:Posted by Michael Croft ( total) on April 26, 2003 12:44 PM:.

I want to select certain IE bookmaks to remain unactivated by safari

When I access email through MSN messenger it activates through safari - I want it
to activate through IE only

Thanx for any help

.:Posted by L. Roddick ( total) on May 11, 2003 12:03 AM:.

Can I selectively prevent safari from opening certain IE bookmarks?

I want MSN messenger email to activate solely with IE but it keeps popping up using safari.

Keep it simple I'm a bit of a novice- Thanx

.:Posted by L. Roddick ( total) on May 11, 2003 12:06 AM:.

Looks like they're not going to include IE as a seperate download anymore! Only by buying the LONGHORN operating system will you get a new IE. This makes Apple's move to it's own browser seem precient!

.:Posted by Mr Real Estate ( total) on June 18, 2003 3:05 PM:.

I removed my plist file but Safari is still crashing on startup. It doesn't happen under other user accounts, just mine.

Any thoughts? I'd really like to get it back.

Thanks ...

-Robert-

.:Posted by Robert ( total) on June 21, 2003 5:55 PM:.

I had a similar "Safari crashes on startup" issue. With the help of a friend at Apple, it was determined that the history.plist file was trash. I threw it away and everything was fine.

Path to the history.plist file is [username]/Library/Safari/History.plist

.:Posted by jma ( total) on July 16, 2003 12:54 PM:.

I was having the same Safari crashing problem, trashing the history.plist worked for me as well, none of the other solutions worked. i am using Safari 1.0 (v85)

.:Posted by Demain ( total) on July 24, 2003 8:41 PM:.

Hey there
sorry to keep on going to the same issue ;-)

my Safari 1.0 v85 is unstable since this morning... I tried all the above, trashing the history.plist, and the com.apple.safari.plist... Safari opens, then crashes erratically, usually when I click on a link...

my log shows the code below. I copy/paste it, if one of you is able to translate that into non-tech hints, it'll help !

thanks

Yogix

Date/Time: 2003-09-18 12:48:52 +0200
OS Version: 10.2.6 (Build 6L60)

Command: Safari
PID: 756

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0 Crashed:
#0 0x9017fe08 in CFPropertyListCreateFromStream
#1 0x993fe644 in +[NSPropertyListSerialization propertyListFromData:mutabilityOption:format:errorDescription:]
#2 0x7e394bd0 in -[WebNetscapePluginPackage pListForPath:createFile:]
#3 0x7e393db0 in -[WebNetscapePluginPackage getPluginInfoFromPLists]
#4 0x7e394390 in -[WebNetscapePluginPackage initWithPath:]
#5 0x7e3751c8 in +[WebBasePluginPackage pluginWithPath:]
#6 0x7e395fe8 in -[WebPluginDatabase init]
#7 0x7e375a80 in +[WebPluginDatabase installedPlugins]
#8 0x7e36ddb8 in +[WebView canShowMIMEType:]
#9 0x0001aa50 in 0x1aa50
#10 0x9068c258 in objc_msgSendv
#11 0x993a6d5c in -[NSInvocation invoke]
#12 0x993d6ffc in -[NSInvocation invokeWithTarget:]
#13 0x993aac9c in -[NSObject(NSForwardInvocation) forward::]
#14 0x9068c130 in _objc_msgForward
#15 0x7e36dbb0 in -[WebMainResourceClient connection:didReceiveResponse:]
#16 0x99479f90 in -[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionInternal) _sendCallbacks]
#17 0x9939c9d0 in -[NSArray makeObjectsPerformSelector:withObject:]
#18 0x9949fbec in _sendCallbacks
#19 0x90149414 in __CFRunLoopDoSources0
#20 0x901487f8 in __CFRunLoopRun
#21 0x90180f58 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#22 0x969a3b70 in RunCurrentEventLoopInMode
#23 0x969b3b00 in ReceiveNextEventCommon
#24 0x969dabbc in BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode
#25 0x9959fedc in _DPSNextEvent
#26 0x995b2158 in -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:]
#27 0x00009920 in 0x9920
#28 0x995c3d88 in -[NSApplication run]
#29 0x99671c58 in NSApplicationMain
#30 0x000071b4 in 0x71b4
#31 0x00007034 in 0x7034

.:Posted by Yogix ( total) on September 18, 2003 5:57 AM:.