August 14, 2003

Posse clownitatus

Posted by pete at August 14, 2003 4:05 PM

Some slow news days are worse than others.

Insane Clown Posse Named Worst Rock Band

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Insane Clown Posse, the Detroit rap duo beloved by teenage boys for their creepy face make-up and X-rated lyrics, have been named the worst band ever by Blender magazine.

The music publication's September issue said Insane Clown Posse "sound even stupider than they look," and derided them for rapping about "40-ouncers and venereal disease."

Lists like Blender's "50 Worst Artists in Music History" are designed for no other reason than to goad people into sputtering paroxysms of indignation. The magazine can look forward to lots of letters and e-mails saying, "How could you be so stupid as to leave 'X' off of your list? You guys wouldn't know good/real/honest music if it sat on your face." or, alternately, "There's no way 'Y' belongs on your list, you guys are retarded/jealous/ignorant assholes." Meanwhile, and bearing an eerie similarity to the obscenity hooplah surrounding 2 Live Crew in the late 80's, ICP will reap oodles of undeserved publicity for their curiously repugnant mix of rap, metal, and scatology.

To prove my point (and so you won't have to buy the magazine), here's the whole list:

50. Iron Butterfly
49. Toad the Wet Sprocket
48. Master P
47. Goo Goo Dolls
46. The Spin Doctors
45. Gipsy Kings
44. Manowar
43. Mike & the Mechanics
42. Rick Wakeman
41. Whitesnake
40. Blind Melon
39. Bob Geldof
38. Nelson
37. The Doors
36. 98 Degrees
35. Paul Oakenfold
34. Live
33. Japan
32. The Hooters
31. Arrested Development
30. Richard Marx
29. Skinny Puppy
28. Crash Test Dummies
27. Color Me Badd
26. Celine Dion
25. Jamiiroquai
24. Bad English
23. Creed
22. Primus
21. The Alan Parsons Project
20. Howard Jones
19. Dan Fogelberg
18. Pat Boone
17. Benzig
16. Oingo Boingo
15. Yanni
14. Yngwie Malmsteen
13. Mick Jagger
12. Tin Machine
11. LaToya Jackson
10. Air Supply
9. Lee Greenwood
8. Vanilla Ice
7. Asia
6. Kansas
5. Starship
4. Kenny G
3. Michael Bolton
2. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
1. Insane Clown Posse

I don't have a problem with including artists just to piss people off - Doors fans across the nation are probably leaping to the defense of the Lizard King as we speak - but get some historical perspective. Without the Bay City Rollers or NKOTB there wouldn't be a 98 Degrees, for example. And, IMO, including bands like Tin Machine, who were around for one album, is about as challenging as putting one-hit wonders on there (shocked, shocked I am that Vanilla Ice and Color Me Badd found their way onto this list).

From the preponderance of prog rock outfits and the utter lack of any bands of the nü metal variety, I suspect this list was cobbled together by twenty-something dudes making fun of their parents' record collections. The only thing that irritates me is that someone actually got paid for it.

And one more thing: There's no way Oingo Boingo belongs on your list, you guys are ignorant assholes.

The Hooters are a folk act tinged with bits of popism. While they got their start on MTV and as "Cyndi Lauper's Band-Before-I-Had-A-Band", they're No Howard Jones.

And I think it's pretty weak to put Lee Greenwood as the sole carrier of the Country Music torch. If One Hit Wonders get their moment, then Bill Ray Cyrus should beat out LaToya.

And I don't see William Shatner or Leonard Nimoy on the list. Surely they aren't superior to Mike and the Mechanics?

Michael
and where's Orrin Hatch?

--Posted by Michael Croft on August 14, 2003 4:32 PM

I always knew I liked crap bands, and that list is the proof: ELP, Oingo Boingo, Alan Parsons, Primus, Skinny Puppy, Arrested Development, Doors and the Gypsy Kings. Well, 14% crapulence isn't all that bad.

And how can you have the Hooters, but not the Outfield? I thought they were essentially the same band!

--Posted by Norbizness on August 15, 2003 8:29 AM

Is "Benzig" a low-quality import Danzig imitation?

"Me and Lorenzig, rolling in a Benzig..."

I think a fun project would be to go down the list, and for every band find a similar-sounding band that's worse, and then make the authors of the article listen to those bands. Alternatively, when the irony is greater, we can go with the specific bands that the bands on the list got their schtick from. (ICP makes the list and SoD doesn't? That pretty much invalidates it right there.)

(Is it possible they were listing the 50 worst band NAMES? That's a bit more believable, especially with Kenny G and Master P on the list.)

--Posted by kodi on August 15, 2003 9:58 AM

Some fair and balanced blogwatching
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--Posted to Off the Kuff on Aug 15, 2003 10:35 AM:.

I think "Benzig" is a transcription error (I cribbed the list from a message board).

SOD actually came to mind as I was writing this. I can't see them qualifying simply because they never took themselves as seriously as ICP. The Clownz want to project this bad-ass image, whereas SOD were just goofy.

And there are about thirty 80's bands I'd list before the Hooters, not counting easy targets like Winger and Poison.

--Posted by Pete on August 15, 2003 11:05 AM

How about Cyanide, a loving tribute to Poison?

--Posted by Norbizness on August 15, 2003 1:11 PM

Primus is going to be pissed they only came in at #22... I'm sure they'd prefer to be in at least the top 7. I'm not even going to start with the bands that should be there...

--Posted by The Tortured Artist on August 18, 2003 9:19 PM

Who in the hell came up with list. Do you assholes realize the following The Doors have.
You probably never heard any of their music. I
bet you like that manufactured bullshit like Brittney Spears, N'SYNC, and the Backdoorboys.
Get some education in music numb nuts.

--Posted by eric on August 19, 2003 10:56 AM

im sure the list was better before alot of people got their hands on it...im sure it was like " you cant put THEM on there do you know how many of our readers really like them!...keep it safe and put bands on there that people might disagree w/ but will not stop buying our magazine..." that shit happens so much more than we like to think...its all propaganda....and like the good consumers we eat that shit up...

--Posted by lungbutter on August 19, 2003 11:14 AM

Pete's sentiment is well taken, the authors of the list are likely twenty somethings -- mid thirties max. What other explanation might one propose for the disproportionate ranks of post 80s artists. I suppose one could argue that there was a reponderance of bad music produced during that period...hum.

Though some have characterised ELP as pretentious, Alberto Ginastera didn't. One can only conjecture how Janacek, Sibelius, Mahler, Copland, and Bach would have criticized those respective variations. Yet, I too, agree with some that the success of ELP’s attempts to fuse rock and Classical remains a valid, UNANSWERED question -- a question that wouldn't even occur to those punk listmaker kids. To really get ELP, one need some knowledge of classical idioms.

If there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s some snot-nosed kid, with the musical experience of a Up With People fan club member living in her mom's basement, spouting off. To quote Barnet Newman respecting artistic criticism: "Aesthetics is to artists as ornithology is to birds."

If the listmakers think they can do better, hell, let'em give it their best shot. They might start with "Das Wohltemperirte Clavier".

--Posted by Cranklin on August 20, 2003 8:43 PM

The list is very modern in tone and is in one sense the counterpoint to the writings of Joe S. Harrington in Blastitude and David Keenan in "The Best Albums Ever - Honest". What is NEW about it, basically speaking, is the inclusion of som many commercially successful artists from the 1990s (Crash Test Dummies, the Spin Doctors, Live, even one-time critical favourites Arrested Development).

This is a reflection of the denigration of commercial music of the 1990s that is reminiscent of the way in which commercial music of the 1980s has been denigrated since Nirvana. The earlier artists on the list are really so typical of rock critics ever since the 1970s - nothing new, in other words.

--Posted by Julien Peter Benney on September 12, 2003 9:15 PM

The list is very modern in tone and is in one sense the counterpoint to the writings of Joe S. Harrington in Blastitude and David Keenan in "The Best Albums Ever - Honest". What is NEW about it, basically speaking, is the inclusion of so many commercially successful artists from the 1990s (Crash Test Dummies, the Spin Doctors, Live, even one-time critical favourites Arrested Development).

This is a reflection of the denigration of commercial music of the 1990s that is reminiscent of the way in which commercial music of the 1980s has been denigrated since Nirvana. The earlier artists on the list are really so typical of rock critics ever since the 1970s - nothing new, in other words.

--Posted by Julien Peter Benney on September 12, 2003 9:15 PM

Music is subjective.

--Posted by Josh on September 20, 2003 2:24 AM

if icp is on there number one then eminem should be number two whats up with this clown love for life

--Posted by juggalo on October 6, 2003 7:53 AM

What is up with all of the one/2 hit wonders? Those are wasted spaces. Toad the Wet Sprocket, Blind Melon, and the Spin Doctors weren't that bad. The writers of the list probably didn't even listen to a whole album bay any of these artists. Yanni is overtrashed, John Tesh is way worse (you might think well, what's the difference? but try listening to both). Why isn't P. Diddy/Puffy on here? He cannot even make an original beat to save his life and all he ever does is steal lines from other rappers' songs, then throw in an obligatory RIP Biggie message. Britney would have been too obvious, but she can't sing and her songs are truly awful.

JKS-child of the 90's :-D

--Posted by JKS on October 20, 2003 6:14 PM

Why the Alan Parsons Project and not some other major crap band like Limp Bizkit or Nirvana?

--Posted by Sandrine on December 20, 2003 3:09 AM

LOL
This is truly a humiliating moment for the brain dead writing staff of the magazine blender. If they put the doors in there to "just piss some people off", they're trully fucked in the head.

Something is'nt right though...

I took the time to browse in their pathehtic ass website ( waste of fucking precious time) and couldnt find any thing about the doors or jim morrison. Yet they do have links on bands and artists that I never heard of or completly suck ass. Go check it out: It will piss you off so much that you'll laugh your ass off.. http://www.blender.com/guide/html/search_results_D_1.html This is not even the tip of the iceburg either, this is only the D section.
Yet they put doors on their "worst band ever list". Who the hell is "death cab for cutie" or "disco biscuits"? Are they better then the doors? I bet the tarts at blender think so....
So what the fuck do they have against the doors?
Did you see what these lieing SOBs said about morrison: "APPALING FACT: Morrison is widely believed to have
suffered his fatal heart attack while masturbating in the bathtub." This is a complete meritless claim designed to get a responce.Its apparant to everyone that they have such a shitty magazine with tanking sales, existing only because of braindead contingent. I never heard of this "rumor" in my life. Now they're getting spears and agularia dukeing it out, obviously a publicity stunt for all 3 brainless parties.
So anyways, back to where I was...Did they interview one of the surviving doors and realize how truly smart and gifted they were (outsmarting punk blender interviewer) and got jealous and decide not to like them because they're stupid son of a bitches? Maybe..
Did they get sick and tired of hearing about a band that had such a profound influence and astounding effect on such a wide scale and spectrum through generations, genders, racial barriers, etc., but yet, isnt around producing anything; they're lead singer, dead and gone for the past 34 years? Possibly...

Jim Morrisons summnation concludes this the best:
"They hate us because were so good"
Appropriately quoted. I guess people just dont appreciate true talent. "Blender" magazine offically gets the dogpiss of the year award for throwing shit and debunking a band that has been the most proilific in such a short space of time, effecting and influencing listeners to this very DAY. The doors deserve commemoration for they're contributation to music and the arts. Mainly some kick ass rock that these punk ass bitches today dont know or cant understand cause they're to busy fucking there pet begal and melting the shit already in there head with music from mudvane.
Im not ever buying or subscribing to a blender or maxim magazine ever again. Its not just this, its mainly their glorification about everything I hate about today. I suggest this boycott to everyone (except the brain dead, they wont listen anyway, and I doubt they're reading this) and I encourage all that is pissed off by this shit to email these assholes and makelight of this boycott, give them a piece of your mind. Email them: your2cents@blender.com. This applys to maxim too. I wont buy any of their trash either. Not even if Anna kounikova is on the cover. All I would do is look at it and hide the garbage beyond the next line of trash behind it, so it will be in the dark, where it should be, saving time for the next passer by to just, well, to just pass on by, saving them a lobotamy and letting them keep the next precious 20mins of their life.
James.

fuq_u blender magazine

--Posted by cunning runt on January 8, 2004 9:52 AM

once again I must say, the hooters kick more ass then is humanly possible.
-jess

--Posted by jessepence on January 15, 2004 9:46 PM

It is not really true, you know, that Belnder are trying to avoid easy targets (unlike jaguaro's "One Hundred Albums You Should Remove From Your Collection Immediately").

The top ten of the list includes artists who are clearly easy targets: Bolton, Kenny G, Starship, Asia, Kansas, Vanilla Ice, Air Supply - all familiar critical targets. Further on, we see Yanni, Pat boone, Howard Jones, Alan Parsons Project, Creed, Bad English all in the first half alone. However, it is true that Blender does avoid the post-98 degrees boybands.

Nevertheless, though they are not the kind who will not listen to any post-AC/DC artist played on commercial radio, Blender's writers certainly think boybands are bad.

--Posted by Julien Peter Benney on February 3, 2004 11:10 PM


I think there should be an article on the 50 most retarded writers for Blender magazine.

--Posted by acid on April 20, 2004 5:38 PM



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