May 2, 2006

Tepid for teacher

Posted by pete at May 2, 2006 12:15 AM

What, no Fark thread for this guy?

A former Cy-Fair ISD coach groped a high school freshman on several occasions during the current school year — including at least once while on campus — and made sexual overtures to other students, Harris County Sheriff's deputies said today.

James Walter Goode, 38, was charged with three counts of indecency with a child. He was later transferred to the Harris County Jail with a combined bail set at $75,000.

The victim, a 15-year-old 9th grader, said Goode began fondling her last fall, soon after she became a student trainer in the athletic department at Jersey Village High School, 7600 Solomon.

Curious how whenever it's a male teacher messing around with a female student, no women come forward grunting like orangutans and wondering, "Where was this guy when I was in high school?" Man, I never get tired of that one.

Goode also is accused of taking a second girl, 16, from the school cafeteria to a secluded hallway Feb. 26, and later asking to touch her breasts. The complaint said the girl refused and was ordered not to tell anybody what happened.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you honestly think there's nothing wrong with a 30-something female teacher having sex with a teenaged boy, then you should also have no problem with a male football coach doing the same.

And don't forget to high five your son and congratulate him on being such a stud.

I know there are some present and former teachers who peruse APCB. I'm curious to hear their thoughts on this kind of thing.

Yup, I teach just down the road from JV, in the same district; I was surprised I heard this on the news and not from a co-worker. Here's my two cents. If I said that there weren't any girls in my school that the average non-perv guy would find hot, I'd be lying (as would anyone who said otherwise). Having said that, we are entrusted with your kids all day, and that alone should be enough. Male or female, 18 or not, it's just wrong. And, it sounds like this guy at JV was not making welcome advances (a moot point, but a valid one). Psychologically the differences between a male teacher with a female student and vice versa are pretty divergent, but they're both wrong and really just sick. Teenagers don't necessarily understand all of the ramifications of what the're doing; the adult should be the adult in that situation.
A semi-funny aside to wrap your head around: Last year we had a gay neighbor, and he said his first physical relationship was with his high school football coach. When he told us, he laughed and said, "Who do you think had the upper hand in that relationship?"

--Posted by basshole on May 2, 2006 5:51 AM

I'm a teacher and I'll give you my thoughts. Gross! That's the first thing I think of when I hear things like this.

As far as male teacher / female teacher you are exactly right. I have heard all those jokes too (not at work though) and they wouldn't like it so much if it happened to their child.

--Posted by laanba on May 2, 2006 5:54 AM

Man, I hate to post something serious and ruin my rep, but the whole female-teacher-on-male-student abuse thing really hits me in an uncomfortable way.

Yes, I know it's wrong.
Yes, I know it's abuse.
Yes, I know it's predatory.
Yes, I know that it can have serious, permanent consequences on the psyche of the victim.

However...

My awkward, nerdy, self-conscious, teenage self would have been unable to resist the advances of an amorous female in authority. My perpetually-bruised ego would have relished the "positive" attention, especially since it was taboo.

Sadly, every time I read about these kinds of abuse cases, there's a teensy little voice inside that thinks how cool it is. I just don't know how to silence that high-fivin' cro-mag.

Whew, I'm glad those years are over, and it's fortunate for the wimmens of the world that I bloomed into the suave, debonair, and swanky freak-nasty love-machine that I am today. Count yourselves blessed, sweet thangs.

Damn.

--Posted by The Thing That Walks Like A Man on May 2, 2006 10:43 AM

Um, teenaged boys are stinky.

Katy, teacher of stinky boys

--Posted by katy on May 2, 2006 7:45 PM

So how does that conversation start with the student in the hall?
"Ummm, uhhh, can I touch your breast?"
"No."
Uhh, ok, don't tell anyone...ok?"
Does it get any smoother than that?
That kind of move doesn't even work in the back of the bus on a band trip.
Seriously, I just can't think of anything more repulsive than taking advantage of the trust you've been given in raising other folk's children. That's what pisses mme off about the whole laughing attitude that america has over these women screwing around with mostly junior high aged kids. I'd be just about as repulsed by some perv teacher playing with my 15 year old boy as some sweathog coach with a cheerleader. I was confused enough about shit at 15 without some screwed up hussy teacher fucking around with my head (or otherwise) THat was the job 14 year olds were supposed to accomplish.

--Posted by Steve on May 2, 2006 10:37 PM

In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka, "Lighten up, Francis."

To back up The Thing That Walks Like A Man, if my 14 year old self - complete with zits, insecurities, and wondering when that growth spurt was finally going to happen (I was 5'3" until the summer between freshman and sophmore year) - had been hit on by a hot female teacher and propositioned for sex, my 14 year old self wouldn't have thought twice about it before heading off to my very own "My Tutor" moment.

Had the same hot teacher gone after one of my friends, I would have said, "Dude, you're doin' Ms. Smith???!! No way! You're the freakin' MAN, dude!"

That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it excusable. I'm not defending it. But for anyone who used to be a teenage boy (stinky though we might have been, to use Katy's words) to pretend that he would have indignantly turned the teacher down and run to his parents or authorities... or to pretend that we wouldn't have given the caveman high five to any of our buddies who'd managed that trick... well, it's disingenuous. We would have been right there. We were teenage boys; logic and right/wrong almost always take a backseat to hormones. I just think that by and large, teenage boys would not feel abused or taken advantage of by a hot female teacher in this case; they'd feel like they were getting a primo initiation into a special club.

Again, it doesn't make the hot female teacher's actions right or excusable or any less dishonorable. But getting all up in arms about it... admittedly, it's a double standard and I confess readily to it, but I don't think it's possible to suggest that the genders wouldn't have different reactions to the situation.

--Posted by Curmudgeon on May 3, 2006 6:03 AM

Well from my understanding, this accusation is totally false. The ninth grade girl was caught kissing another girl and the coach yelled "Hey, Im watching you." the girl took it from there. I cannot believe that she would even want to charge the coach with such accusations. I feel for her parents when the truth comes out.

--Posted by Janice on May 3, 2006 12:57 PM

"I've always depended on the kind-ness of strangers". Blanche DuBois

--Posted by nadamas on May 10, 2006 2:27 PM



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